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Originally Posted by bonzoe
yes, we can agree on somethings, it IS an emotive issue, as are so many things in life. Life is not based on data but emotions, what is love? How is that explained in pure data, it may be possible but it is beyond me.
As you say, each and every generation has called the younger generation feckless, but in my feckless years I did not begrudge the older generation their "benefits".
Perhaps I have a more caring attitude to life than your admitted "I'm alright Jack" stance. 
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Oh I see, so I've gone from being jealous to 'I'm alright Jack' now that it's clear I have no reason to be jealous.
Although if I'm alright it does beg the question of why I'm repeatedly raising the plight of the under-30s.
Anything else you'd care to try in this 'discussion'? So far we've had jealousy and selfishness. What's next on the list?

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Originally Posted by Osem
Not directly comparable but equally unfair to one group of people - which is the point I was making. You may care more about losing £££'s to a 'bribe' than a necessary 'policy' but the financial result is the same for a group of people who've done nothing wrong.
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A lot of things are unfair. That's life. Intentionally making them more unfair is an entirely different matter.
Maybe you could explain why, if it's been all that bad for those on fixed incomes, the largest increase in disposable income in percentage terms between 2008 and 13 was in the over-75 age group?
Sorry, again, I'm bringing facts into the discussion. I really must stop.
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Originally Posted by Kursk
Commenting further would feel like Groundhog Day  .
There are bigger fish to fry than a small benefit for our mums and dads.
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It would. Thank you for proving my point by, again, being unable to back up your opinion with anything.
If you can actually come up with some decent reasons why they 'deserve' the various bungs they've been given this Parliament while the under-30s see an unprecedented drop in their disposable income, yes the same under-30s who'll be paying for any state-provided healthcare and welfare benefits when we retire, we can certainly revisit.
As it is everyone is entitled to their opinions, I'm entitled to say that I think their opinions are nonsense and ask for something to back them up.
It's all good.
EDIT: The below runs both ways, incidentally. I got something wrong and Hugh picked me up on it