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Old 24-12-2014, 19:55   #70
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Re: Should Ched Evans be allowed back into football

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Originally Posted by Kursk View Post
Well, I'm afraid our opinions differ. Rape is rape. You appear to feel that there are 'nice' rapes which make them acceptable.

I don't want to be vulgar but if someone buggered you whilst you were incapacitated would you think that you had been fair game?
To be fair, good point well made.

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Originally Posted by Russ View Post

Whereas rape is rape as you rightly say, there is a difference between someone having sex with a woman when she's too drunk to remember whether or not she consented, and when she is beaten up, forced to the floor and attacked.
Oh dear, there isn't.

Because if she is too " drunk" to consent, then she didn't consent. It's quite that simple.

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The difference is intent.
nope, intent is the same, to have sex with the woman, whether she wants to or not.

If the woman cannot give consent, or is in such a state that non- responsiveness or the ability to say no is impaired, then consent is not given.

For men who have trouble understanding this, I think the example given is absolutely spot on. If you came round in an apartment with a sore backside, I'm sure you'd think differently
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