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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh
People who don't believe God are not likely to accept any proof that He does exist, !
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I would, proper tangible evidence that stands scrutiny. I would accept it.
There is lots of evidence of UFOs, but none that stands up to scrutiny.
There is lots of evidence to support a theory of ancient aliens, but none that stands up to scrutiny.
Just thought I'd chip in on that point, the rest of the thread is nuts.
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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh
What proof have you that God doesn't exist?
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You've got to do better than that, and you know it.
Now I know the argument is what do you base your proof against, I.e. Why should I provide scientific evidence, when I don't believe science holds the answers and don't believe my faith should answer to science.
Well it doesn't have to be total science, just the balance of probabilities based on the accumulated knowledge of the society at the time. But as a world, I believe we accept "accepted science" so that is the base line
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My proofs are universal (creation, stars, "nature"), history (when nations obey God they succeed, when the don't they don't), personal (Jesus is real to me, lives in me, encounter) and believing the reports of others (miracles and so on). But you don't accept those proofs. C.S.Lewis in miracles stated that if you don't believe in miracles, even if you experience one you would still not believe.
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non of which stands up to scrutiny