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Old 19-11-2014, 14:50   #59
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Re: Could FTTC prove to be a mistake ?

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet View Post
Okay, although looking at a map of Germany that shows Dusseldorf, Munich, Dresden, Hanover, Stuttgart, Berlin etc covered by the purple on that map while the south-west of the country with no large cities is somewhat empty confuses.
OK, lets take a look at that map again, here highlighting the 7 biggest cities and metropolitan areas, basically the same as your list substituting Dresden which was 11th with Stuttgart which is 6th, of those large urban areas every one except Hamburg actually has fairly patchy coverage, noting in particular the Dusseldorf-Köln-Duisburg region, one of the largest urban conurbations in Europe, is also fairly patchy overall:


That aside comparing the rural coverage above with the rural LTE coverage of D-T's (joint) operations in the UK:


Note the almost complete lack of any coverage outside of the major urban areas. Compare with the map of Germany's coverage above - and then consider that Telekom Germany and EE UK have almost the same coverage, population wise: both in the mid 70%'s.


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How about https://www.telefonica.de/fixed/news...re-on-air.html ?

Those well-known rural areas Munich, Berlin, Frankfurt, Cologne, Nuremberg, Leipzig, and Düsseldorf being the first covered by Telefonica.
Ermm, I wouldn't have expected you to make such a huge mistake but Telefonica launched LTE three years ago, starting with rural areas first:

https://www.telegeography.com/produc...lte-on-1-july/

Your article is dated mid-2013, two full years later...

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I can't say I know the regulatory background to Deutsche Telekom's LTE deployment beyond that because they didn't **** all their money away at the start of the century they didn't end up having to sell their mobile arm to not go bankrupt and have spent a fair chunk of change on LTE. Their VDSL rollout covered less of Germany than BT covered and I believe LTE was in part a replacement for fixed services.
Presuming you're referring to BT Cellnet/O2 vs. D-T yes, that's correct, however note since the launch of VDSL and LTE there are no operators in the UK with nationwide mobile and wireline operations, so comparing operations of two separate companies in different sectors vs. one that does both isn't exactly indicative.

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A completely different scenario to the UK and FTTP where we just have a telco that would rather spend money on football rights than infrastructure and is probably best having the retail unit spun off from the rest so that they can set about trying to be Sky without handing Wayne Rooney et al the network repair and upgrade cash.
Well no, it's the same principles at stake (particularly if you look at the UK vs. Germany LTE coverage above). The UK LTE market has proceeded much the opposite way of that in Germany, with practically zero regulation and coverage/rollout defined purely by commercial/capitalist influences. We've ended up with practically complete urban LTE coverage with barely any rural rollout to speak of while they've had government headed incentive to provide rural coverage thus ending up with almost the entire country covered with urban areas coming last. That same government incentive is what's given us more rural FTTP than urban like you mention. Both have solely occurred as a result of the government saying 'we want rural' and would not have occurred without it.
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