[Russ]

So now you agree the 'magic' thing was a straw man? Good, although it would have been easier if you'd said so when I first mentioned it.

You seem to be of the opinion that just because science states 'a' is 'a' that it will forever be only 'a'. This is a well-worn example but it's valid nonetheless - we did used to think the Earth was flat. Why do we no longer think that? Because new evidence came to light to prove science wrong. We used to think the Sun was at the centre of the universe until new proof showed that's not the case.

With that in mind I view all science facts to have the potential to be disproved. Having a closed-off opinion of "Science says this so it must always be true" could not be more narrow-minded and arrogant.

Just to ensure you don't bring any more straw men in to this, I don't believe in ghosts but I'm not going to say they don't exist just as it's unwise for someone to suggest that science says they don't exist. I keep an open mind to the possibility that current scientific thinking is not yet at a level where it can conclusively state there are no ghosts.

I'm trying to get you to open your mind to the fact that although science strongly suggests ghosts are not real, you need to bear in mind science has a history of proving itself wrong, I tried to open your mind a little more (unsuccessfully it seems) but mentioning the half-life of knowledge.

Keeping your mind open will benefit you in the long run.