Originally Posted by papa smurf

is this you starting with the facts ? [ the new thing your trying out we discussed it earlier ]
if it is then i must point out that asking questions is not presenting "facts"its more like fishing for answers.
a- ukip will not win the next general election that's for the future
b-still exist campaigning to exit the eu [ its still an un-polishable turd but you already know that you just don't want to admit it ].
c- that's another question