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Old 01-11-2014, 17:47   #1307
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Re: The state benefits system mega-thread. Many merged.

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth View Post

If only the facts aggreed with you.

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link to source - excel spreadsheet from the ONS website

The numbers seem pretty clear to me (despite the size of the attachments!).

Cheers

Grim

If only those facts were relevant to the discussion.

Those figures appear to relate simply to numbers of large families in the UK over the given period whereas I'm referring specifically to the number of problem families in which there is no parental control and children are being 'brought up' in squalor by defective parents. In problem families which are large, the problems are made worse and by definition the number of children adversely affected is greater hence the problem is likely to increase over time as those children have no positive roll models. That's not the same as saying that in the UK the number of large families will go up, but unless defective parenting is tackled I believe the proportion of problem families (large or small) is likely to go up.

You may have missed it or chosen to ignore it but I specifically pointed out that NOT all large families are a problem (far from it) and neither does being on benefits mean bad parents so let's just make that clear to save any further misunderstanding.

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... Feckless parents who have kids then don't look after them. We're not talking here about people who fall ill or are subject to unforeseen circumstances after having children, but those who have children and keep on having them even when they can't cope and clearly don't even try.
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