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Old 28-10-2014, 16:58   #94
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Re: EU demand extra £1.7bn from UK

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet View Post
The majority of the EU's 28 members are net recipients from the EU. In 2010 which are the first figures I could find as I'm not going to obsess over it 19 of the member states were net recipients, 9 net donors.

In 2010 our net contribution per capita was E75.26, which of the 9 net donors placed us above Austria and France and at a level virtually identical to Italy.

So rather than paying less in per head than anyone else in Europe we were in 2010 actually 7th out of 28, meaning that not only were we in the top half over the EU28 but we also paid in more than the majority of the Eurozone.

Or were you perhaps going for % of GDP? In which case our net contribution of 0.27% of GDP places us just 0.02% of GDP below Germany, obviously above the vast majority of the member states and they are net recipients, and continues to place us above Austria and France.

The rest of the post is largely a combination of recycled comments alongside outright fantasy. We can't trade with Europe without being in the EU even though Switzerland do, Europe is apparently coming over more to our way of thinking which is beyond comedy given there are veerings towards more socialist ways of thinking after a completely botched austerity spree, Germany regretting Eurozone membership when they've been the main beneficiary, France not opposing any attempts to pull Strasbourg off the gravy train.

A really simple example of how misplaced your optimism is is that David Cameron was, not that long ago, trumpeting how he'd won a reduction in the EU budget.

Here's what's actually rumbling through the EU machine. Overspend from 2013 to be paid for, and indeed actively overspent knowing it will probably be funded as QMV is coming in imminently across more policy areas, reversal of budget cuts for 2015, probably be an overspend in 2014.

Too many nations in receipt of other people's money who of course want to keep that flow going.



Just as well we have this huge amount of influence and are getting our own way...
I'll come back to this later, but I should've said we used to pay less into the EU coffers than anyone else, that's before all the Eastern European countries joined the EU. The very same countries we wanted to join the EU in the first place.

Why I am taking a pro-European stance when we've just been landed a nasty bill, I've no idea. I'll slap myself and wake up soon.
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