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Originally Posted by Damien
You already know what the Union offers. No one is claiming it's perfect or that we can see the future. Better Together cannot offer anything more than what you have as it's a cross-party effort where the parties disagree on various policies. I don't think they've said everything will be OK. It won't be. Life will go on and there will still be problems facing the country. There will be problems for every generation, and the generation after that, and the one after that just as there have been for all the generations prior.
Yes has a massive advantage. They don't have reality to deal with. All their assertions and promises are for the future. This gives them considerably more leeway in promoting a optimistic vision without the realities of implication weighing them down.
No has no such luxury, the flaws are there for all to see. No cannot promise a richer Scotland because it would be here already. It cannot offer much better pensions, because rUK is having to try and cut down on the bill. It cannot not offer a job for every young person because how the hell do you do that? We don't have the money in the UK to have everything we want and since No is burdened by the reality of governance it cannot pretend it would either.
So yes it is negative. No cannot give you everything Yes is claiming they'll give you. There isn't really much that can be done about that. There isn't really much more to say. 
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It's moved on from the bull***** of BT and the false smugness of the Yes campaign. I'm witnessing the debate taking place in the street, in the office, on the train and in the living room. The ordinary punters have suddenly became galvanised by the referendum and it's not down to politicians or the mainstream printed media.
From being fairly convinced that I'd vote No, I've moved towards considering voting Yes. Much of the BT together campaign is based on scaremongeing; the facts as presented aren't so concrete as they had me believe, and some of it is just downright insulting to anybody with half a brain.... you won't get BBC (that'll get the Eastender fans voting no), Cancer research funding will be removed from Scottish Universities etc.
The main point that made me reconsider my position was from a colleague who turned the argument on it's head. He asked, if Scotland was already independent, would I vote Yes in a referendum to become part of the United Kingdom..... my behind is getting sore sitting on the fence while I ponder that one.
In my circles, at the moment, there is definitely a fair bit of momentum for the Yes campaign that I don't think is quite being captured in the rest of the UK. It's not quite a juggernaut so I suspect the No vote will still win.... but maybe not.
In Football terms, the No campaign were winning by 2-0 against 10 men. The yes campaign have now got a penalty and the No campaign have had their goalie sent off.....There's still 10 minutes to go...
