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Old 10-08-2014, 00:26   #47
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Re: How big are VM's infills?

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Originally Posted by Horizon View Post
Clearly there is ducting along the ring road and some streets. You can see where the ducts go up to each individual house. But as you say, its hit and miss. I personally don't think there is any cable in any of the ducts, or the ring road. There are clearly no cable street cabinets and I didn't see any BT street cabinets either. Do you have BT fibre services available in your area?

Assuming a small takeup of services, say 10%, a 1000 homes paying about £40 a month, that's half a million quid a year in revenue being lost. No wonder all the old cablecos went bust. They were just crap.

But VM don't do FTTP, but you could point out that very fact to them. Not having to build a load of street cabinets is a big incentive. But I have never heard of VM even considering doing FTTP, so good luck on that one!
Dealing with these in turn.

I know there is no cable in the ducts. There is trunk fibre network cable running down the Ring Road and then along but nothing in the spurs off it going to the premises themselves.

There is Openreach FTTC here, I campaigned for it to cover this specific area. We currently don't have FTTC as we sold out the first 288 line cabinet and are waiting for a second one to be installed - take up of SFBB is >50%. In addition due to there being no TV aerials included with the properties penetration of Sky is >50% so most of the FTTC customers are likewise Sky tiple play. I have made these points to VM in the past in the hope that they will, at least, consider completing the duct builds around here even if they leave this specific small area uncovered.

A takeup of 10% isn't going to be close to enough to cover it. That's a loss of revenue but the initial costs were big. The cableco went under when they tried to build too much and borrowed too heavily to do it.

VM have been trialing FTTP on multiple occasions and in multiple sites. They have only trialed FTTP when assessing new ways to deliver. They're being cagey but there is no point in their building HFC to new builds as it is actually more expensive per home passed than FTTP now. Optics are cheaper, ONTs are cheaper, active plant is relatively expensive.

This thread is interesting.
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