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Old 22-07-2014, 17:04   #10
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Re: The joys of xDSL

Hmm.

First an issue with those Ofcom graphs. If no-one can get 35Mb on the 38Mb service, VDSL rate 40000, confused how anyone, let alone almost everyone, is getting >70Mb on the 76, VDSL rate 79999kb?

Check figure 2.9 from that report, it contradicts those graphs by mentioning that there are customers on 38Mb FTTC receiving >35Mb.

Clearly some adjustments done to the data in places.

I also note the sample size of the 76Mbit FTTC packages in the graph you screenshot is 34. Those results appear problematic due to small and unrepresentative sample and are somewhat reduced by weighted graphs and 95% confidence adjustment.

Pleased your city has dense cabinet deployment. A number don't - the situation in London for example can be quite different and it doesn't take going far outside of the centre of cities to see distances from PCPs change. The centre of cities are more densely populated so obviously distances will drop. Leave the urban centres and go to their suburbs and distances soon rise.

Profile 30a doesn't mean a thing for those who are distance restricted on 17a and isn't intended for FTTC deployment for exactly that reason. It is an FTTB/S technology.

What can be achieved on vectoring is irrelevant until BT have pulled the trigger and actually announced a plan to JFDI. It's no more relevant than what VM's HFC network can do if caps are removed.

Thanks for reminding me of something with that link to the TBB guide though.

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Current roll-out plans are predominantly FTTC and BT expect FTTH/P to make up around 17% of the completed fibre deployment. In 2013 the FTTP on Demand option should launch, which will allow small businesses and home owners to pay perhaps £500 to £1500 to get FTTP installed to their home if they live in an area with FTTC.
Ya. Try 0.5% without gap funding for FTTH/P, and FTTP on demand costing closer to 3 times that top end figure.

My quote, including VAT but not including any excess construction charges, not that there would be any, is £6,150, followed by a 36 month contract at £270/month.

FTTC can do more, if pairs are bonded, phantom pairs deployed, vectoring used, and indeed fibre pushed deeper into remote nodes.

BT have tested vectoring on one of their 2 vendors and shown precisely zero public interest in any of the rest, primarily because it costs BTCoins to deploy such things.

FTTP to a 1,000 premises housing estate potentially comes it at around the 1/6th of a BTCoin mark.

*BTCoin = £6 million, the approximate cost per footie game shown on BT Sport.
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