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Old 21-07-2014, 01:18   #7
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Re: Could FTTC prove to be a mistake ?

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Originally Posted by rhyds View Post
Openreach have to take a much wider view than Virgin Media and Sky when it comes to services roll-out, due to the universal service obligation.
The USO applies to a single copper line costing a maximum of £3,400. Nothing at all to do with fibre.

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Originally Posted by rhyds View Post
The FTTC work is running fibre (and more importantly ducting) out to local Cabinets/Nodes.

If Openreach decide to go FTTH in the future then rolling out FTTC will have made that job much, much easier.
How exactly do you think the e-sides got to the PCPs without ducting?

The work Openreach did was unblocking existing ducts and deploying new ducts to connect the new cabinet with the PCP. They weren't running miles of new ducting out to cabinets.

The total spend on FTTC doesn't make FTTP much easier, Openreach did FTTC at a bargain basement £80-90 per home passed thanks to being able to use so much existing infrastructure.

They still aren't planning FTTP as their next step, it'll be FTTdp, DSLAMs on top of poles or at the end of streets. The deployment of FTTC will save them about £600 million on the cost of FTTdp, or if you like considerably less than 10%, to their commercial areas. To be honest the saving will probably be more like 2.5% - 5%. Getting fibre to PCPs is easy, hence why they were able to cover 18 million homes spending less than £1.5 billion.

Fun fact - VM spend more per home passed upgrading their existing network in 3-4 years than BT spent on this 'massive' infrastructure upgrade per home passed.

If I order FTTP on demand the fibre isn't coming from the cabinet, it's coming from an aggregation node nearly a mile away.

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Originally Posted by rhyds View Post
Has it changed recently? Either way, FTTC is still a massive upgrade of the infrastructure, especially in villages like ours with no cabinets at all.
If you are fed from a distant cabinet you aren't getting a new one. The upgrade to you will be worth precisely nothing if FTTC is deployed.

That's the wonders of this massive upgrade of the infrastructure, if you're fed from a cabinet in the next village FTTC is worthless to you.

If you're fed directly from the exchange and it's close you may get a cabinet deployed just outside the exchange.

You may even receive FTTP - as densely packed villages and urban areas should have from the start if BT weren't more interested in spending money on football rights than their network. Anything you get will be largely funded by the tax payer, naturally.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 View Post
Reading this article and this article do you think Openreach have been a little shortsighted with its FTTC decision ?
Openreach know they were shortsighted running with FTTC and so little FTTP. They have already been thoroughly shown up by the BT TV Multiroom product requiring 34Mb, putting it out of reach of 25% of the BT Infinity customer base as their super whizzy fast broadband isn't fast enough.

They won't do a thing about it until it starts hurting their pocket. The barn door is open and the competition are beginning to take a look around it.
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