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Originally Posted by damien c

Really 91fps is not faster than 89fps are you really saying that a card that produces more fps is slower than a card than produces less fps?

Sorry, let me clarify. You said the GTX 780 Ti which got 89fps is faster than the GTX 780 6GB Twin Frozr which got 91fps.

Originally Posted by damien c

Also the Twin Frozr card is overclocked from the NVIDIA STOCK speeds, regardless of how you try to fudge it.

It is running at the speed it was set to run at by the manufacturer regardless of how you try to fudge it.
It is running at the speed it defaults to out of the box regardless of how you try to fudge it
It is running at the speed it was sold to run at regardless of how you try to fudge it
It is running at the speed it was designed to run at regardless of how you try to fudge it
It is running at the the speed it is guaranteed to run at regardless of how you try to fudge it.
It is £100 cheaper than a stock GTX 780 regardless of how you try to fudge it.
It is faster than a stock GTX 780 regardless of how you try to fudge it.
Faster and £100 cheaper = better value regardless of how you try to fudge it.

Originally Posted by damien c

A overclocked 780Ti will ALWAYS be faster than a 780 thanks to the faster memory bus, faster memory speed and the fact it has MORE CORES!

Did I say overclocked 780Ti? I said BASIC (STOCK) 780tI. Find me an overclocked 780Ti that costs £100 less than a stock 780Ti and then your case might be relevant.

Originally Posted by damien c

Yes the MSI card might be faster against a stock 780Ti but as soon as you overclock the 780Ti and put it up against the overclocked 780, you will see that the 780Ti comes out on top.

Doesn't change the fact that it's still faster and cheaper than a stock 780Ti (which I'm glad you finally admit)

Originally Posted by damien c

Yes you may be happy with a slower card, and you may have a great deal of knowledge in the computer hardware industry but when you say that a card is faster than it actually is, then you instantly loose all respect from me!

You've clearly missed the bit where I said I don't have any of the above cards... Or the bit where I posted a dozen benchmarks that show the card is faster. When you point blank deny the benchmarks done by professional review sites that are sitting right in front of your face, you lose all respect from everybody.

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Originally Posted by damien c

After thinking about this it is pointless me carrying on trying to prove what I have already proven, time to set the ignore option.

All you've proven is you
a) Admit breaking a lot of hardware
b) Cannot accept that spending over £1000 on two graphics cards that are barely faster than a single £360 card represents "poor value for money"
d) Like to derail the thread with tangential arguments while failing to address the actual point.