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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq
i5 4670K, GTX 780 6GB OC.
So? No PC in existence gets 60fps in every game in the world.
Bollocks. Gigabyte and Asus make some of the most reliable boards around.
If you think your personal experience is representative, I know of several people including myself who have been running 50% overclocks on a Gigabyte board for 5 years, with all 10 SATA ports occupied and it still works flawlessly, even with the chipset heatsink cut in half and the northbridge running on a constant 70'c+
Given these 5 year old boards are still in high demand (mainly for overclocking second-hand Xeons) and selling on Ebay for £150+ I highly doubt they have a habit of dying.
I wouldn't call developers deliberately putting higher quality content, better resolution textures, and lossless audio into their games "lazy"
A casual overclocker like the OP doesn't need water cooling at all.
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A single 780 6gb card will not give 60fps at anything more than Low quality settings, my 2 780Ti's will only give on average 45fps in most games maxed out and when you drop, the quality then you start to push to 60fps and that is with 2 cards that are more powerful than a 780, that is also with a 4930k which does perform slightly better than a 4670k in games and 16Gb 2400Mhz ram which was in the test machine.
I keep thinking to myself about getting a 4K monitor but I still get put of by the fact, that my £2500 pc will not run most games at 4K with 60fps minimum without turning, the details all the way down to medium or low.
To play games at 4K I would need to go and buy 3 Nvidia Titan Blacks, and then I would only get about 55fps maxed out at 4K, and if I dropped the details down or turned of AA I would get more than 60fps.
Have a look here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPwtDta32wI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA2pfk_L9dU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vefkanYechQ
I have had in the past, 2 Gigabyte X58 boards that both died within 16 months from overclocking, that were "Overclocking" boards, 13 Asus boards including Rampage II Extreme, Rampage III Extreme (6 boards in the space of 7 days), Rampage III Extreme Black Edition, Asus P8-P67 Pro (2), Asus P8-Z77-V Pro which is still working techincally but needs add in cards and finally a Asus Rampage IV Extreme on day 2 and now the Rampage IV Extreme that is currently on my test bench, which has sata issues, network issues and also PCI-E issues, and this board is not dieing due to heat as it's watercooled and cooled by a 1080 rad.
So my Experience with Gigabyte and Asus has put me off them and I don't recommend them to anyone, where as my MSI P67 motherboard is working perfectly fine with no issues at all.
Also Xeon boards are designed for being pushed at high temps and constant workloads as they are "Server" and "Enterprise" boards, try doing that with a normal "Consumer" board and see how long it lasts.
The SSD size of 512Gb is because of the developers being lazy, Titanfall looks like a game from 5 years ago but requires 52.8Gb of storage space with the first DLC thank's to, 35Gb of Audio Data that should be compressed and decompressed on the fly but is instead uncompressed on install, and doesn't sound much better than if it was compressed.
Call Of Duty Ghost's requires 40Gb of storage and looks like it was made 5 years ago, and also doesn't have uncompressed sound.
Battlefield 4 requires 40Gb with only 3 of the DLC's and yes they are big map's and it has decent graphics, but it is still to much space.
Crysis 3 looks better and sounds better than any of the games mentioned above and it only requires 15Gb, thanks to the developers not being lazy.
Metro Last Light requires 10Gb and looks better than all of those games.
Those games would take 160Gb on a SSD and then you have windows on top which can range from 4Gb to iirc 25Gb, then you have apps on top and potentially other games that will be installed along the way whilst keeping those other games installed, just makes sense to pay £150 for a 512Gb SSD instead of £110 for a 256Gb.
Also developers are making games on the pc require more Vram than they should, because the new consoles have "Unified Memory" and that is why the likes of Call Of Duty Ghost's and Titanfall both use 3Gb+ whilst delivering graphics that look like they should only need 1Gb of Vram.
As for the cooler, the Devils Canyon cpu's run hot but not as hot as the Ivy Bridge and Haswell cpu's, and given that the OP is looking to overclock then it would do there cpu a world of good to have a decent cooler on it, and with a H100i with Noctua fans on it, it will perform better than any sealed watercooler on the market and any air cooler on the market that is designed for a cpu for "Amatuer" overclockers.