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Originally Posted by Matt D

Standard cables may well be support 1080p etc., but they have not been tested and certified to do so.

Er, yes they have. If they don't support 1080p then they are not a HDMI cable.

But you don't need to waste money to buy High Speed cables - you can buy High Speed cables, with or without Ethernet, for just a few quid on Amazon. Buying High Speed cables does not require unnecessarily spending stupid amounts of money on Monster or Sandstrom cables.

Paying a few quid more for something that does nothing more is the definition of wasting money.

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Originally Posted by Qtx

Some good info there

Except that it's wrong.

Had a further look at the CEC issue, which I know for a fact doesn't work on certain cables, and came across the image on this page: http://www.hdmi.org/installers/insidehdmicable.aspx

So my guess is some cheaper or older cables simply don't bother having the CEC part of the cable either save money or the HDMI spec back did not require it. If it was a spare pin on the connector until CEC came along, then I can see why they thought it was pointless to add that strand. It does show that HDMI cables can be different though.

CEC was introduced in HDMI 1.0 and mandatory in all cables, so there was never a time "before CEC came along". Though before it became popular it's quite possible cheap manufacturers copped out and skimped on the wiring. Same as 8 conductors are mandatory on a UTP ethernet cable but until gigabit became popular lots of cheap manufacturers made cables with just 4 conductors.

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I assumed the ones sold as HDMI v1.4 or 2 have been tested or certified to work at that speed, compared to another one that is sold as v1.1. Going by what you have said there is nothing stopping someone who has been selling a HDMI 1.1 for donkeys years could change the description of it to be a HDMI 2 cable.

Most marketing claims relating to HDMI are bogus anyhow.
See http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articl...dmi-cables.htm and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Version_comparison

Cables are basically certified to a given bandwidth (75Mhz, 165Mhz, 340Mhz) much the same as the Ethernet cable categories. And just like the ethernet cable categories the certification is purely about raw bandwidth and doesn't care what protocol or data rate you put over the cable, and just like the Ethernet ratings the categories while widely misinterpreted to mean certain "modes" don't actually and aren't supposed to fit in with any mode.