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Originally Posted by Kursk
You cite Cities (millions of potential customers) against some little place that only Wikipedia has heard of (population, a postman and a man walking a dog).
A business planner is obviously going to prioritise for maximum custom. Of course, once the regular payers are signed up in their millions, you can re-prioritise, and as far as upgrades go, that's what has happened imo.
More customers will be secured from a new build estate than from 3-4 affluent residences fronting the river don't you think?
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VM's network construction to new builds and the uplift programmes are two completely different things.
The Mortlake hubsite serves the London Borough of Richmond upon Thames pretty much - population ~188,000.
Croydon hubsite was actually completed after Mortlake, population 365,000 and it serves properties outside the borough too.
Both have quite high population density because, well, they're in London. Many of the larger houses in Twickenham, etc, have been converted to flats, houses are tightly packed due to the cost of land and of course Croydon is infamous for apartments.
They were done late because, as I said, their networks needed overbuilding. Nothing to do with population, nothing to do with customer density, they needed extra work so were left until last along with Hawkfield, South Gyle and others. Nothing more.
The exact same criteria hold true now. Barry needs more work before it's ready to go with the new speeds as an all-tier uplift, so it has to wait a bit longer. No discrimination, no sudden hatred from VM / LGI for Wales, the upgrade programme there isn't done yet so the uplift hasn't done.
Because Mortlake and Croydon, as part of the 10:1 upstream upgrade, have been rebuilt recently VM were in a position to give them the upgrades earlier this time around, and have done so.
The order may change, the criteria haven't. Barry was getting it early because the people who originally built the network built it to a high standard, hence VM and before that ntl were able to release upgrades early as the 'leg work' had already been done. The fibre optic node sizes were small, capacity upgrades were relatively easy. Exactly the same situation that there is with Mortlake and Croydon now, shiny freshly overbuilt network so easier to upgrade.
Your arguments seem to fail on all levels. If we're talking about all these potential customers do you know how many uBRs / CMTS Virgin Media have serving the entire Barry hubsite? Must be tons right given they appear to have been prioritising it?
Four:
Name: bary-cmts-04.network.virginmedia.net
Address: 82.13.60.83
Carrying on with the hubsites in Wales that were all done a year before Mortlake -
Swansea - four:
Name: swan-cmts-04.network.virginmedia.net
Address: 82.13.60.113
Cwmbran - three:
Name: cwbn-cmts-03.network.virginmedia.net
Address: 82.13.60.95
St Mellons - three:
Name: stme-cmts-03.network.virginmedia.net
Address: 82.13.60.141
Newport East - five:
Name: new2-cmts-05.network.virginmedia.net
Address: 82.13.60.96
The population of a postie and a man walking a dog in Mortlake seem to require six of them.
Name: mort-cmts-06.network.virginmedia.net
Address: 82.7.206.183
That lightly populated backside of nowhere Croydon, it must not even have a man walking a dog given VM left it until even later than Mortlake, with April 2012, twenty three.
Name: croy-cmts-23.network.virginmedia.net
Address: 82.7.207.240
Also late to the party, not done until April 2012 was South Gyle:
Name: sgyl-cmts-36.network.virginmedia.net
Address: 82.7.207.15
You can't even say that it's the reverse where smaller sites were done before larger ones; Newport East, with its 5 CMTS was done before Newport West with its 4 and Cwmbwrla with its 8.
So clearly VM do have some whacky ideas or some really messed up prejudices. They release an upgrade and in your world prioritise Wales in order to leave 2 hubsites which, between them, cover more customers than the whole of VM's network in Wales until last, then release a further uplift a little later on and intentionally decide to leave specific parts of Wales behind out of spite or nationalism.
Or there were legitimate engineering reasons for doing so.
Sorry, couldn't find a tin foil hat with any reference to anything Welsh on it, I hope this foil balloon will do.
