[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

I didn't for a moment suggest that Russia were blameless, however the reaction of the west to what occurred hasn't helped matters at all, neither has the indifference to the indiscretions of the new government.

---------- Post added at 19:44 ---------- Previous post was at 19:43 ----------



A war with Russia was never going to be won by conventional forces, the plan was always to fall back on tactical nukes as the Russians would always massively outnumber NATO.

Tell me about it, i was in the forces at the hight of the cold war and i feel my grave would have been in the fulda gap after what would have been the biggest tank battle of all time.

---------- Post added at 20:02 ---------- Previous post was at 19:58 ----------

Originally Posted by Uncle Peter

Putin's attitude towards the West is precisely the problem, because of what he is. The fact that we are still referred to as "The West" is the problem: the concept of us and them and a complete unwillingness to participate in the international community and the democratic responsibilities that come with that participation, no doubt to ensure that his arse stays in power. Using the Party's pollution of the gene pool in the region during the previous century is not a valid excuse for his actions.

When the gas revenue starts to dry up chairman Putin will be funding his military with printed money, re-instating collective farms and turning to the West again for food aid.

Younger Russians who look back (to the times before they were born) with fondness at the once "mighty" Rodina should be careful what they wish for.

And the good old 5 year plan's