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Originally Posted by Osem
Yeah right, no intention whatsoever of getting as many new members as possible into the club... :roll eyes:
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Yes eventually they're a option to become another EU members. Ukraine has harboured that ambition for a while. It's that is what they want it is their choice, not ours nor Russias. Anyway this is more than that now. It may have been the spark but it grew into more. The protestors believe the Government was corrupt and serving it's own interests. Their attempts to use violence against the protestors inflamed it more.
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Ukraine was once in their club and Russia didn't prevent them leaving.
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I think that had more to do with the dramatic collapse of the Soviet Union more than anything else.
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What the EU is doing is going to be seen as eroding the buffer zone of countries adjacent to Russian soil and that's a big problem.
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It's not just what the EU is doing it's what the people of the country are doing as well. If they didn't want anything to do with the EU then I would agree but it appears they do and it's their decision to make. The Ukrainians don't see themselves as a mere buffer zone.
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So, according to your logic we should assist the Ukranians to pull further away from Russia if they so wish but then stop if the Russians call our bluff and move their tanks in. What sort of help is leaving them high and dry?
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Yes because we provide what help we can. Honouring the terms of an agreement they wanted is not especially taxing for us. What other policies and agreements should be cancel at the behest of Russia?
Besides it's not as if moving the tanks in is an action without cost for Russia. They're currently doing the same as the EU, willing to support the country if they choose them. However unlike the EU they don't have the backing of the majority of the country.
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It's not cowardice but common sense to avoid getting entangled in a potential war you can't win unless there's no other option.
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No one is advocating getting involved in a war. We're talking about supporting the citizens of the country by not cancelling the free trade agreement. A agreement some want us to cancel because we don't want to upset Russia.