Re: The state benefits system mega-thread. Many merged.
Apologies for my absence had a hospital visit this morning so had to try and get some kip last night. To answer your point Marty yes there are people faking and some of them do get away with it but the majority play a type of benefit shell game they claim sick up to the six month point where things get harder in terms of both NHS examinations and DWP evidence requirements. They then sign off and go claim JSA for a bit until there faking causes the jobcentre to suggest going back onto the sick it is a pattern that could be recognised if the system was improved. Then you have the hardcore who put in a great deal of time and effort perfecting their faking reading up on the internet and hanging around physiotherapy departments watching for people with obvious problems.
All that said there are a lot of very debilitating illnesses that cannot be faked and are well known in terms of the limiting effect they have on sufferers and many people with those illnesses have been found "fit for work". I can only speak of my personal experience of NHS consultants the three I'm under at the moment have all signed people off their lists when they feel they are better or in some cases never had a problem. First time I was waiting to see the rheumatologist consultant he chased a person down the corridor telling them loudly he didn't see people that had no problems and then told the reception to remove the person from his list and make no more appointments. I didn't know at the time he was going to be my consultant and a few of us were laughing and hoping he wasn't our consultant. There are more consultants like him then will allow people to waste their time these days.
Also testing these days has progressed to the point where they cannot always make a concrete diagnosis but can tell if a problem exists thus slowly making it harder to pull the wool over eyes. But that only applies to people that are on the sick longterm I would like a proper reform where any and all tests are done within weeks of signing on the sick that would cut the numbers of fraudsters down significantly. Once again I'll state I have no problem with welfare reform and people having to justify their benefit but despite what many of the public think this current so called reform process is doing absolutely nothing to cut fraud and is simply cost cutting by any means necessary if anything it's helping frauds at the expense of the genuine.
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