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Osem · 13-02-2014, 13:42

Listening to a few people on the radio who seem to feel this announcement is tantamount to 'bullying'. This of course is what the SNP want - they'd quite like Scots to get all angry with the 'auld enemy' and vote accordingly. I heard one guy claim he'd hitherto been a 'no' voter because he believed that Scotland was stronger within the UK but is now going to vote 'yes'. Why? This isn't exactly a big surprise is it? Does this announcement suddenly mean they will be worse off in the UK or is he just spitting his dummy? This sort of emotional reaction to events is really very stupid but it's exactly what Salmond's Tartan Twits are relying upon. They're happy to promise populist stuff they can't deliver knowing they can then shout 'bullying' when it's made clear they won't get their way. I'd have thought most people would see through that sort of tactic but hey ho, there's nothing like a bit of nationalist resentment to fog the brain is there...

Anyway, at what point do such people want to be told the reality they're facing and what's at stake? Before they vote or afterwards? By all the parties concerned or just the ones with the message they want to hear? Can you imagine the furore if all this had been kept quiet - they'd then have been whining that they'd been deprived of all the facts by those nasty bullies in Westminster.

Really, what do these people expect? That they can walk away from the bad bits of the UK, look after themselves and be true Scots but keep the bits of the UK they quite like. Sorry but it doesn't work like that and these voters better be very sure that putting their future into Salmond's hands isn't something they can just undo if they feel like it at the next election. That's why it's so important that the realities are made clear. This clearly is a case of "damned in they do and damned if they don't" and frankly anyone who falls into the trap of voting on that basis deserves to suffer life under a party that's making it up as they go along and a leader who wants to have his cake and eat it.

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Osem Inactive Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Right here! Posts: 22,315	Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK? Listening to a few people on the radio who seem to feel this announcement is tantamount to 'bullying'. This of course is what the SNP want - they'd quite like Scots to get all angry with the 'auld enemy' and vote accordingly. I heard one guy claim he'd hitherto been a 'no' voter because he believed that Scotland was stronger within the UK but is now going to vote 'yes'. Why? This isn't exactly a big surprise is it? Does this announcement suddenly mean they will be worse off in the UK or is he just spitting his dummy? This sort of emotional reaction to events is really very stupid but it's exactly what Salmond's Tartan Twits are relying upon. They're happy to promise populist stuff they can't deliver knowing they can then shout 'bullying' when it's made clear they won't get their way. I'd have thought most people would see through that sort of tactic but hey ho, there's nothing like a bit of nationalist resentment to fog the brain is there... Anyway, at what point do such people want to be told the reality they're facing and what's at stake? Before they vote or afterwards? By all the parties concerned or just the ones with the message they want to hear? Can you imagine the furore if all this had been kept quiet - they'd then have been whining that they'd been deprived of all the facts by those nasty bullies in Westminster. Really, what do these people expect? That they can walk away from the bad bits of the UK, look after themselves and be true Scots but keep the bits of the UK they quite like. Sorry but it doesn't work like that and these voters better be very sure that putting their future into Salmond's hands isn't something they can just undo if they feel like it at the next election. That's why it's so important that the realities are made clear. This clearly is a case of "damned in they do and damned if they don't" and frankly anyone who falls into the trap of voting on that basis deserves to suffer life under a party that's making it up as they go along and a leader who wants to have his cake and eat it.