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Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute

But where is this information based on? One story that is highly speculative,

I can appreciate speculation/theory on channels VM consumers would like to acquire like SA
I can understand on ones that have been announced as intended to launch like ITV encore

But speculation on a channel that doesn't exist I.e. Sky bravo is just plain daft, if anything if such a channel was planned I suspect ITV encore is now this said channel, which will be a sky exclusive for given period.

Why would sky want to do a deal for sky bravo with VM when they have proven in the above two examples of doing it alone (SA), if anything this proves they want to do deal with producers like HBO and ITV and not direct competitors, BT and VM

I know that some on here have a mindset that leads them to be absolutely certain that some things will definitely not happen, just as they did with BT Sport. Although they insist on sources and certainties from those who tell them differently, their resistance to the idea is not backed up by sources and certainties either and is purely their opinion.

As far as Sky Atlantic is concerned, of course there is some uncertainty about this, because we are not privy to these delicate negotiations and we are reliant on what comes out of the media. However, there is quite a bit of evidence that points to the distinct likelihood that things may be about to change (which I won't repeat here as this has been done to death).

Now that VM have Netflix, some are speculating that this has killed off any likely deal with Sky, but frankly there is so much decent content on Netflix, I think Sky will realise that the small amount of additional 'decent' content that exists on Sky Atlantic in comparison means that it is no longer the USP that it once was, nice though it would be for us to get it. Sky will surely want to get some money in from VM viewers at some point to help pay for the massive outlay with very little return that they have had to date, with a ridiculously small audience share.

As for Sky Bravo not existing - well it doesn't at the moment, but Sky want to launch it when they can get VM to agree, so there's a negotiation there to be had as well. Sky Bravo is a prospective male orientated channel and has nothing to do with ITV Encore.

You may be interested in the link below as you seem to think that Sky Bravo is a figment of my imagination.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...nnel-itv4-dave

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Originally Posted by harry_hitch

Purely as devil's advocate, surely giving VM access to SA would give VM an edge over Sky due to their superior broadband speeds and any possible triple pay package deals that VM could offer to new customers coming over from Sky?

They already have the advantage with Netflix. How many shows would you watch on Sky Atlantic compared with the huge variety of material on Netflix? There's no comparison.

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Originally Posted by Chad

If they wouldn't give a provider they don't see as a big rival access to their prized American drama channel, when agreeing the new SKY basics carriage deal earlier this week, then Virgin Media have no chance.

Yes, but that was likely to be due to the price that Sky wanted from them. It doesn't mean it's not for sale now, and I think Liberty Global has bigger pockets if they can get a deal that they feel is worthwhile.

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

So you've nothing to back up the statement with.

Cheers

Grim

Sky have form, Grim, it's just a question of learning from history.