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Stuart · 02-12-2013, 10:07

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/c...-her-baby.html

If this has happened as reported, it's disgusting. An Italian woman was in England for a two week training course. Apparently, it started when she paniced when she found that her children's passports were not in her room and phoned the police, then her mother. The Police spoke to the mother who did report that their daughter was bipolar and off her meds, so was a bit excitable.

The Police immediately took her to a hospital explaining it was to check the baby is OK, but she was alarmed to discover it was a psychiatric hospital. When she said she wanted to go back to the hotel, the article says she was restrained by orderlies and sectioned. Now, I know from experience (A friend's dad was sectioned when he held a shotgun up to her head) that sectioning is not something that is undertaken lightly, so I am willing to believe that there was some sort of altercation.

This is where I think the reporting misses something. AFAIK (and I could be wrong here as I am not a mental health expert) any order to detain someone under the Mental Health Act only lasts a maximum of 28 days unless it has been extended, yet the baby was taken without the knowledge or permission of the detainee 5 weeks later. I am fairly certain that any new order or extension would not have been granted without something happening to persuade the authorities it was needed.

Personally, I would like to know why she did not know this was happening. While the High court in Rome did complain that we were doing this to any italian citizen, the judge there accepted that she had not protested at the time, when the reason she did not protest at the time seems to be that she didn't know what was happening.

I would also know why the Italian equivalent of social services was not apparently involved. If the mother's Bi Polar condition is a threat to a baby, surely it's a threat to her other kids as well, and Italian social services should be monitoring the family?

Also, why was the baby adopted rather than placed with the family?

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Stuart - Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Somewhere Services: Virgin for TV and Internet, BT for phone Posts: 26,546	Court orders a woman be sedated, have her baby delivered,taken without her consent. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/c...-her-baby.html If this has happened as reported, it's disgusting. An Italian woman was in England for a two week training course. Apparently, it started when she paniced when she found that her children's passports were not in her room and phoned the police, then her mother. The Police spoke to the mother who did report that their daughter was bipolar and off her meds, so was a bit excitable. The Police immediately took her to a hospital explaining it was to check the baby is OK, but she was alarmed to discover it was a psychiatric hospital. When she said she wanted to go back to the hotel, the article says she was restrained by orderlies and sectioned. Now, I know from experience (A friend's dad was sectioned when he held a shotgun up to her head) that sectioning is not something that is undertaken lightly, so I am willing to believe that there was some sort of altercation. This is where I think the reporting misses something. AFAIK (and I could be wrong here as I am not a mental health expert) any order to detain someone under the Mental Health Act only lasts a maximum of 28 days unless it has been extended, yet the baby was taken without the knowledge or permission of the detainee 5 weeks later. I am fairly certain that any new order or extension would not have been granted without something happening to persuade the authorities it was needed. Personally, I would like to know why she did not know this was happening. While the High court in Rome did complain that we were doing this to any italian citizen, the judge there accepted that she had not protested at the time, when the reason she did not protest at the time seems to be that she didn't know what was happening. I would also know why the Italian equivalent of social services was not apparently involved. If the mother's Bi Polar condition is a threat to a baby, surely it's a threat to her other kids as well, and Italian social services should be monitoring the family? Also, why was the baby adopted rather than placed with the family?