Thread: Drug law reform
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Old 30-09-2013, 11:41   #88
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Re: Drug law reform

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Originally Posted by Russ View Post
For the ones that are currently illegal. That would be the price of having your drugs on general sale. They are contraband for health reasons (not just your own) so if you insist on having free access to them then you accept the responsibility for any further crimes caused as a result of using them.
The hole in your reasoning is so massive I could drive a truck through it.

So what you're saying is in Russ' world GBH committed by someone under the influence of drink is a mitigating factor but under the influence of coke should lead to harsher sentences.
Doe 't really gel,does it?

By the way,illegal drugs are mostly not associated with violence,bar cocaine.Ask any cop to how many fight calls he's been and the ratio of alcohol v other drugs,I think you'll be surprised.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy View Post
It was quietly trialled in Scotland around fifteen years ago and was a disaster, free heroin to all registered addicts just like it was before we joined another of America's crazy wars and was a complete disaster, the smack heads still robbed and stole and bought crack instead and got doubly high.
Complete and utter rubbish.heroin prescription program's are a great success wherever they are implemented. Not only do most addicts greatly reduce their by-consumption but the crime figures go down massively.The Swiss run actual Heroin clinics,so successful has it been,and the people actually voted to keep the program running in a referendum. In Fact,every German police chief supports theses program's in all the major cities there and it sure isn't because crime is up.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy View Post
This isn't even counting most drug abuse happens over the course of a weekend in nightclubs and the like, unless you're going to have a chemists in the cloakroom of each club dispensing e's and cocaine on request organised crime will still have a market.
Really?So people won't be able to buy their legal drugs beforehand?


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Originally Posted by Russ View Post
Yep.

But with more drugs being available, more crimes will be committed under their influence. If you insist on putting more of us at risk then you will be punished more harshly which I think you'll agree is fair.
Really,more crimes? So what crimes will that be? Please don't answer robbery and burglary as those are crimes associated with the trade. In fact drugs and violence are synonymous because of their prohibition.

Prohibition causes crime.... Fact!

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Originally Posted by jamiefrost View Post
sorry but that is utter crap, try basic economics if not common sense.

Your taking something that is illegal and expensive and turning into something that is legal and cheep.

1. Anyone who was put off by it being illegal will now use. The ability to walk into a shop and purchase can only increase the number of people.
2. More people will be able to afford to use as it is cheaper
3. Some people who already use will use more now as it more affordable.

So how can this not increase use and cause more problems?

J
Ok,so what you're saying is that as soon as Heroin is legal you will start to use it... Correct? Crack? It's legal,right?

Yeah,thought so,and neither will 97% of the population.Legal doesn't equal condoning. Legalisation is about our crime and violence problem,not about our drug problem.
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