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Originally Posted by TheDaddy
Doesn't a champions league final and at least one other final count as a sniff at a trophy, I think he's done remarkably well keeping them in the top four under the constraints he's under, if their self induced restraints then it's the boards fault for putting their dividends ahead of success.
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If United went on to have the next 8 years the same as Arsenal did since their last trophy I'd consider that a crisis. For a team like West Ham what the Gunners have done in that time may seem like major achievements but for big clubs it's pretty bleak.
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy
In other news is that both Welsh clubs in the bottom three, long may that continue.
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The ones in red can stay there - however yes I'm sure it annoyed the racists that a Welsh club won your League Cup last year
Still no shame in losing to the PL champions - as I'm sure certain London teams will testify twice this season
