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Old 05-08-2013, 22:41   #995
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Re: superhub 2

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq View Post
It's no more futureproof than what already existed before it. As discussed the VMNG300 is capable of the same DOCSIS 3 speeds.
What makes you say that? The SH1 can do 8 downstream channels versus the 4 on the Ambit 300. If 200Mbit becomes a thing, the Ambit 300 will struggle to hit that but the Superhub shouldn't have much of an issue.

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The wireless on the Superhub 1 is poor and outdated and has been substantially upgraded - it's effectively two generations behind and cannot support more than ~100Mbps in typical households.
I think 100Mbps is being generous there, I wouldn't rate its wireless capabilities at all, but I think that's where we're butting heads here - I'm talking about it as a modem, not as a wireless router. I guess you're correct in saying that it's not good enough and thus needs to be replaced for better equipment but in terms of DOCSIS capabilities I don't think it's any less able than the SH2 and I'd say anyone with a SH1 in Modem mode isn't in any real need to replace it any time soon.

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It's gigabit LAN capabilities must be disabled in order to bypass the wireless limitation, and the actual routing performance is... go figure. So tell me one single way in which it is any more "future proof" than the VMNG300.
As I stated before, 8 DS channels versus 4 makes it more future proof than the Ambit 300.

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But the whole definition of future proof is "does not need replacing"...

Well no, the SH2 can actually deliver 200Mbps over wireless, therefore enabling the next generation of speed doubling customers to still get full speed nomatter how they connect. The SH1 cannot.
I do actually agree with this, as I mentioned before, I should have made it clearer that I was talking about the modem side of the Superhub rather than its wireless capabilities. I guess I've just gotten used to seeing it as nothing other than a Modem.

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq View Post
Probably. BT, Sky, EE, and various others are including AC in their routers this year, VM would be foolish not to follow suit considering their higher headline speeds. Though not sure about the SH2, the SH1 has modular wireless which in theory could be field-upgraded (by a competent technician) to support 802.11ac anyhow. Course VM seem to prefer to send out new hardware than actually upgrading existing equipment...
That's right, I was surprised when I read about that as well and always hoped Virgin would use it as an opportunity to stick better wireless chips in a hardware refresh, but it never happened. I honestly can't see the techs going out and replacing wireless chips inside the SH2 though. It's too time consuming and it'd be faster to just swap it straight out and have someone replace the chips somewhere else to be sent out as "new" equipment.

Or they'll just do what they did with the SH1 and have a different model entirely. It would be a good opportunity to start pushing out DOCSIS3.1 hardware and it's been established that the 3.1 rollout would start with modems before anything else. Who knows, that makes sense so Virgin will probably do something else entirely.
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