Re: The state benefits system mega-thread. Many merged.
Being totally honest i couldn't give a fig who has what or where they did or didn't go to school i just want a welfare system that does what it is meant to and is not a politicians football anytime they want to abuse it for their own ends. Are too many on disability yes there are at the time of the last election there were about a million people claiming disability benefits that should not have been but were because for labour it was easier to encourage them to go on disability and not show up on the unemployment figures then to actually do anything real and long lasting to create proper jobs.
All political parties in power have misused the benefit system for their own ends over the decades and while this lot talk about sorting it all out they are not really, they are still leaving the system wide open for political abuse the next time any of them need to use it so whose right or wrong. This time we have the triumphant chant of creating a million jobs just gets a bit sketchy on what sort of jobs full time or part time majority of them being part time not paying a living wage and not lowering the welfare dependence that much as they earn so little they still need benefits to top them up maybe less then they were getting maybe more the system is such a mess it's hard to tell.
As for the so called bedroom tax hitting a lot of people that wanted to and couldn't do a thing to avoid it because wanting to downsize doesn't matter when the housing is not there to downsize too which was the case for a lot of people. It's all just another load of hot air sounds good looks good even on paper but get down to the detail and it's as useless as all before it. Anyone speaks against what this government is doing and they quickly get labelled "socialist", "freeloader", "anti tory" it really is a joke there are serious points about this so called benefit reform that need to be examined and debated by all groups in society and no debate is allowed because one side is right and the other side is wrong.
Such a moronic approach to the whole thing it clearly avoids both entrenched sides that both sides have some right and some wrong and the smart thing to do would be to meet in the middle but no were into a good old slanging match it's all or nothing folks and most of the talking is being done by people that are not even affected by any of it. For the record i am a claimant would dearly love not to be but i have a medical condition that has royally screwed me i have been a Tory voter all my life but the conservatism i was bought up to believe in isn't what this government are doing. I fully agree the system needs reform and needs tightening up, i also think it is only fair at times of economic hardship that claimants don't get more then those who work have no problem with any of that.
Never in my life have i ever been referred to as a socialist only on this forum have i been called that all because i don't think this reform is going to do sod all to sort the problem out. It is political pandering to society backed with distortion of facts and ridiculous rhetoric which we heard more of today from osbourne with his "workers are right" rubbish. People that are unemployed don't stop being workers they are simply workers without work usually through no fault of their own hopefully for a short time and his speech today was so divisive it was unbelievable.
For the very small section that does believe in benefit for life when they are capable of work i fully endorse them being hit and hit as hard as we can to make them work but they are a minority and that needs to be remembered and we don't need a sledgehammer to crack this nut we need people with their eye on the problem and not the next headline or poll.
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