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Old 06-03-2013, 17:41   #32
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Re: Miliband - Labour didn't listen blah blah

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Originally Posted by danielf View Post
Okay, talk about weird... If the goal of socialism is communism, then why have socialism in the first place?

It seems to me that people are just playing silly semantic games here. It's perfectly possible to support the notion that those who earn more pay in a bit more (but get to keep more as well), without hankering for a world where everyone earns the same and the state controls everything. And anyone who is even going to suggest different needs to have his head examined.
Didn't Marx describe socialism as the steps towards communism and the soviets described themselves as socialists working towards communism.

That doesn't mean the goal is communism in all cases (certainly not from UK socialists) but I offer historic context for the reference.
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