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Old 06-03-2013, 17:26   #29
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Re: Miliband - Labour didn't listen blah blah

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Originally Posted by Will21st View Post
No,it's not unique to socialism... what is unique to socialism is however the need to control it all,socially and economically. Funny how quickly people forget how controlling Labour was,and of course always has been.
That isn't unique to socialism. There are degrees and variations of socialism, there isn't a single form of it that is easy to define.

Also it's not hard to forget how controlling Labour were because this Government aren't much different, despite being mostly Conservative.

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Deciding what's best for oneself in one's life is a 'meaningless sound-bite'? Now I've heard it all...

I don't need the government to dictate to me what I can or can't do or what is politically correct or not.Being able to vote doesn't mean that government shouldn't be as stripped back as necessary. Far from being a sound-bite it is to me the very essence of my understanding of government and it's relationship with the population. I know what I need,not the government. If you however like to be told what to do than that is up to you.
It is a meaningless sound bite. It's up there with 'hardworking families' or other such bumper sticker slogans. It doesn't really mean anything. You don't build the roads you use, the schools you attended, the policy who protect you. Living in a society means these matters are pooled across many and the only difference is a disagreement where the state should get involved and where it should not.


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No,it isn't moronic but born-out by historic facts... yes,socialism is a broad group of people but the goal of socialism is Communism,and what that leads to is well known.
Err no.

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Can't think why people think this forum is increasingly alienating anyone who isn't right wing....
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