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Governments are controlling. It's not unique to socialism. It's just which areas they decide to get involved in and which they don't. The right in America may want to get out of healthcare and social security but they still seem to want a lot of police and a large army. A lot also want to get involved in abortion, schools and sex education.
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No,it's not unique to socialism... what is unique to socialism is however the need to control it all,socially and economically. Funny how quickly people forget how controlling Labour was,and of course always has been.
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This isn't a right or left issue. It's a authoritarian/libertarian issue and despite what people think they're not monopolised by the right or the left. When the Government gets involved in a area you think they should keep out of then there is a temptation to deem it authoritarian. It's idiotic.
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I don't disagree with you,however left-leaning governments are much more controlling.
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Also "people know what's best for them?", so what? It's just a meaningless soundbite. They're allowed to vote and they can vote for what they think it's best for them. A lot of people think a state that provides healthcare for all is best for them.
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Deciding what's best for oneself in one's life is a 'meaningless sound-bite'? Now I've heard it all...
I don't need the government to dictate to me what I can or can't do or what is politically correct or not.Being able to vote doesn't mean that government shouldn't be as stripped back as necessary. Far from being a sound-bite it is to me the very essence of my understanding of government and it's relationship with the population. I know what I need,not the government. If you however like to be told what to do than that is up to you.
and yes,maybe some people do think government provided healthcare is the best.... Personally I think a system half/half is ideal,so insurance based but government regulated. Lived under such a system and it beats the NHS hands-down,but that is just my experience and opinion.
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Socialism is a rather broad definition of an even broader group of people. There are degrees and variations of socialism. It's utterly moronic to say they love to control.
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No,it isn't moronic but born-out by historic facts... yes,socialism is a broad group of people but the goal of socialism is Communism,and what that leads to is well known.
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I think some people on this forum need to step back a bit. I've seen this so often now it's getting tiresome. Not only are the left tree-hugging, corrupt, economic-illiterate, hypocrites that want to protect the right of terrorists now we're also a bunch of mini-Hitlers.
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I knew you would re-act in this way,I was actually going to apologise pre-emptively but didn't...
I should clarify that the goal of Socialism is ultimately Communism,or should I rather say Socialism is the slippery road that leads there,imo. That leads to atrocities and a state of terror and suffering.
But no,I'm not calling you a Mini-Hitler Damien...
