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Originally Posted by Will21st
Well,actually we agree then because socialists are controlling,but to differing degrees,but controlling non-the-less.
Saying that the state should provide a safety net and Healthcare to me means giving away control,e.g. if you are dependent on the state they control your life to an extent.Labour likes to control people via their welfare programs and general philosophy that government knows best,when in fact people know themselves what's best for them.
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Governments are controlling. It's not unique to socialism. It's just which areas they decide to get involved in and which they don't. The right in America may want to get out of healthcare and social security but they still seem to want a lot of police and a large army. A lot also want to get involved in abortion, schools and sex education.
This isn't a right or left issue. It's a authoritarian/libertarian issue and despite what people think they're not monopolised by the right or the left. When the Government gets involved in a area you think they should keep out of then there is a temptation to deem it authoritarian. It's idiotic.
Also "people know what's best for them?", so what? It's just a meaningless soundbite. They're allowed to vote and they can vote for what they think it's best for them. A lot of people think a state that provides healthcare for all is best for them.
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Yup,they love to control!
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Socialism is a rather broad definition of an even broader group of people. There are degrees and variations of socialism. It's utterly moronic to say they love to control.
I think some people on this forum need to step back a bit. I've seen this so often now it's getting tiresome. Not only are the left tree-hugging, corrupt, economic-illiterate, hypocrites that want to protect the right of terrorists now we're also a bunch of mini-Hitlers.