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Old 04-03-2013, 15:16   #2023
JustaBloke
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 1.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY View Post
You don't know that. Once enough people have the TIVO, I can't see why they would need to charge extra for it. They are not charging extra for the V+, so why would the TIVO charge remain once VM's set up costs have been met?

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No, it's not a separate matter actually, although I accept you may want to look at it this way. Cross subsidisation is not a new concept.

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I don't know who pays whom for access. I thought that VM would have to pay the supplier, charge the customer on behalf of Netflix and take its cut from the subscription discount through the wholesale price.

In my view, the strategy for VM should be to make as much content available to its customers as possible, which would be a good unique selling point against Sky.

I understand the point you make about the charges for the TIVO applications being made only to TIVO customers, but it doesn't necessarily have to be that way. As for fairness - life isn't fair, I'm afraid.
The TiVo charge is the money you pay TiVo inc (via VM) for all that added functionality that you want. It is the basis of TiVo inc. business model all over the world with partners in each territory. It is not something that VM can stop charging even if it wants to, or your box will get turned off.

It is an entirely separate matter. Cross subsidisation is fine in terms of channel bouquets, but forcing people to subsidise products that they have chosen not to subscribe to is not. Let me put it to you another way. You said you're not interested in sport, so I assume you don't subscribe to Sky Sports. Assuming you don't, when sky put the price of SS up by (say) £3 in the future, wouldn't it be fairest if all TV customers were charged an extra 50p each instead? Of course it wouldn't, the people who have chosen not to take SS would be up in arms. TiVo is just another premium product like SS or Sky Movies. It has it's own charge for it's own customers.

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu View Post
Media Boy, hpw do we get STV HD in London ?
You'd need to be on a Scottish headend. So you cant, sadly.