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and some of the people I know have Academy Awards on their bookshelves.... so what? I could go on and on and rattle down whom I know and have worked with,but I won't. You'd only lose that p-contest.  |
So, you were the one who (erroneously) suggested that your view is correct, simply because of who your friends are and where you work: "As someone who works in film and TV ... ", remember?
I'm delighted you work with so many illustrious people. It still doesn't change the facts.
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The BBC is a major player in the Entertainment World and respected everywhere. London is only second in the World when it comes Film and Tv Post-Production and FX Houses. All the Major Studios have offices there. I know a lot of big players in Tinsel-town have agents there. It is only natural that the BBC is in London,where else would they be?
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There's not much point repeating myself, is there? We agree that London is a major centre, both in terms of creative industry and also as a city in its own right. You can make a list as long as your arm, it doesn't address the point I'm making, which is where your experience and contacts are letting you down a bit ...
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and it being part of the National Infrastructure.... well,you don't build a massive Airport in the very North of Scotland so they get a bit of infrastructure too,do you?
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... because, as this ^ shows, you clearly don't understand that different kinds of infrastructure have different kinds of restriction on where they can be put.
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London is one of the Entertainment Industry hubs in the world,why would the BBC not be there?
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The BBC is there. It is also in Salford, Cardiff, Glasgow, Bristol and who knows where else. Spreading around those things that can be spread around, and keeping Graham Norton in London so the Hollywood A-list, the ones who
genuinely can't make the trip north for whatever reason (or won't, and are influential enough to insist), can be interviewed in a cosy studio on the south bank. Though not a studio owned by the BBC, ironically.
Yes. Exactly what I said.
I'm sorry if the phrase "the traditional centres of film and TV production are separated by almost 2,500 miles and three time zones." wasn't sufficiently clear for someone in the know. There is in fact about 2,500 miles between LA and NYC. And three time zones. I took the trouble to check, rather than just hitting 'reply' and thrashing my keyboard.
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although that is slowly changing with more Film coming to NYC and New England due to tax incentives and other investment.
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Seriously? And they're not worried that the talent won't travel?
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Anyway you're comparing Apples and Oranges,since NYC and LA are both World Class Cities,accessible and second homes to most of the players in the Industry anyway. Heck,I know a good few up and coming UK actors who flit between NYC/LA and London all the time.
No need to be condescending Chris,I know where Salford is on the British Isles and how far it is from London.
Tell you what though,have you ever had a look on the Entertainment Industry Map? I'm looking right now,can't find Salford though...
this has nothing to do with North/South divides.London is one of the Nerve centres of the Industry,and that won't change by moving the BBC to Salford.... it's just a fact of life.
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The BBC hasn't moved. Some BBC departments have moved. The BBC obviously believes they can function that way and that sufficient talent can be attracted to Media City to make it viable. I don't think the whingeing from those who would prefer all their employment prospects to be a short walk from any given tube station is a surprise, and I'm confident that in a few years' everyone will be just getting on with it and not moaning. Not quite as much, anyway.
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Hm,I thought you were fiscally prudent,yet now you brag about how much money the Beeb has to throw away? Bigger than any of them? Yeah,thanks to all our money,so please let them be careful!
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Um, who's bragging? The BBC's guaranteed income, due to the licence fee, is a fact. Pointing it out is a means of contributing useful facts to a debate. You may be taking this a bit too personally. Have you lost any work as a result of the move of certain departments to Salford?
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They'll come?Who''ll come? This reminds of the thread where you were convincing yourself that 3D won't be a success until the BBC said so.... it worked out anyway.
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Crumbs ... you really are taking this personally, aren't you? What else is in your dossier of "Chris Things Said That Made Me Cross" ... ?
About 100,000 people out of 27 million watched the Olympic opening ceremony in 3D. Sky has about 250,000 3D subscribers, out of a total 10 million connected homes. Meanwhile there are something like 1.3 million 3D-ready TVs already installed around the UK. Based on this, I'm puzzled as to your defintion of "it worked out". My contention is still that 3D will not become mainstream in the UK until a truly major, respected player starts pushing it. Oh, hang on, that's the BBC, isn't it ...
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I agree that Infrastructure should be more evenly distributed,however the BBC isn't the centre of the entertainment world.... London is one of them. The Beeb has moved away from it and that's a shame.It needs to be at the pulse of Entertainment,Culture and World News,not on the fringes.
Or do you believe that everyone will pack up and move to Salford too cause the BBC is there?
The only reason the BBC moved is because the Labour government said so and Hazel Blears wanted that triumph for her constituents. Complete and utter tosh that move was,and no,they won't come ( at least not all of them) .
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Some already have, some haven't. Good luck to them all. Only time will tell exactly how successful the move will turn out to have been, but I'm happy to stand by my prediction that in 10 years everyone will wonder what all the fuss was about.