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Originally Posted by Damien
Well let's be careful because I don't think any of us here are Islamic Scholars or even have read the Quran. I do know that often with these religious texts you can selectively quote and interpret from it to make whatever case you want. According to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Islam, it's rather a complex topic. It states that women are equal, but one must serve the other, but that only applies to marriage.
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I agree ,i do know that the Quran does
not say that women are not equal ,it is something that has been interpreted over centuries so the end result is that to varying degrees Islamic women are not equal to men
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Also you didn't say some Muslims, you said most Muslims. You also agreed with a poster that Muslims want to take over the world when 'we're all dead'
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A flippant remark (note to self ...use more smilies)
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Women are not equal is prevalent in all Muslims? Well in some respects the same could be said of Christians. After all let's look at the problem with woman bishops. What about society in general? Where it's not easy for women to reach the higher reaches of our society and where they're often judged more on appearances than on merit. Women who get leered at on the street or whistled at. I think women in society can be explored a lot more and it's not a Muslim problem alone.
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Again i agree ,the difference is that Christian schools do not (as far as i know)teach that women are not equal .I have already touched on this earlier and recognise that there is still some way to to go with womens rights ,wages is one aspect but the basic principle in our society is that women are equal ,in law if not in practice(but is improving i believe) ,with Muslims in a lot of cases it is actually law that women are not equal
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There is a problem in some Asian communities, predominately Islamic ones, when it comes to women as the Rochdale case showed (this case shows nothing other than one child abuser). However this doesn't represent Muslims as a whole any more than child abuse in the Catholic Church represents Catholics.
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The one thing they have in common is the lack of respect for women predominantly due to the Islamic teachings .I'm not saying that the teachings these people had told them to go and rape children but it did teach them that women where not equal and that teaching has allowed for crimes like this to happen .