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Originally Posted by martyh
What i'm getting at is that All Muslims are taught via the Koran that women are not equal (i actually believe the correct terminology is "equal but not the same").Islamic education in this country perpetuates that idea because it's in the Koran with no repercussions from mainstream society even though any state school or Christian school teaching that would be shut down so why is that allowed to continue ?as a direct result of that teaching Adil and his like take that basic Islamic teaching to the extreme with results we have seen in this thread and in Rochdale .So i think saying "Some Muslims" is about right because most if not all are taught that women are not equal to men .Fair enough some Muslims treat women worse than others but the basic idea that women are not equal is prevalent in all Muslims
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Well let's be careful because I don't think any of us here are Islamic Scholars or even have read the Quran. I do know that often with these religious texts you can selectively quote and interpret from it to make whatever case you want. According to Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Islam, it's rather a complex topic. It states that women are equal, but one must serve the other, but that only applies to marriage.
It's not as simple that the religion teaches that woman are second class citizens. As with most religious texts you can use it to make either case.
Also you didn't say some Muslims, you said most Muslims. You also agreed with a poster that Muslims want to take over the world when 'we're all dead'.
Women are not equal is prevalent in all Muslims? Well in some respects the same could be said of Christians. After all let's look at the problem with woman bishops. What about society in general? Where it's not easy for women to reach the higher reaches of our society and where they're often judged more on appearances than on merit. Women who get leered at on the street or whistled at. I think women in society can be explored a lot more and it's not a Muslim problem alone.
There is a problem in some Asian communities, predominately Islamic ones, when it comes to women as the Rochdale case showed (this case shows nothing other than one child abuser). However this doesn't represent Muslims as a whole any more than child abuse in the Catholic Church represents Catholics.
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Originally Posted by Gary L
So what you're saying then, is that there's no reason why the word Muslim has to be excluded from the title?
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This seems to have happened when we had that merge issue a couple of pages ago, it wasn't editorialised. Changing back now.