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Originally Posted by heero_yuy
The classic false claim being "Three million jobs depend upon our membership of the EU" Wrong, wrong, wrong. They depend upon us trading with the EU. Quite a different thing but expect this mantra from the likes of Hesseltine and Mandelson over the next years.
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And the single market is a benefit to such trading. There are also benefits, in the Financial and IT industries at least, brought by the free movement of workers across the EU. I.E Go around Old Street's 'Silicon Roundabout' and see how many companies and workers are from around the EU - Germany, France and Eastern Europe especially.
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But it's always the way with Europhiles to muddy the waters and make claims that don't stand up to close inspection.
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The waters are muddy. If we're going to start making sweeping claims of the entire sector of people on the other side of the debate then let me have a go. It's the way of Eurosceptics to talk in absolutist terms about the benefits and consequences of the leaving the EU without ever making clear what the alternative is and making assumptions the rest of the time.
We don't know what Cameron's new deal with be or what he is going to lobby for, we don't know what our relationship with the EU will be, we can't use examples from other countries because they don't apply and yet when people talk about the risk to jobs then they're the ones muddying the waters?
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Originally Posted by martyh
Quite agree,it always amazes me how people swallow the garbage that if we leave the EU we lose 50% of our trade .Other countries don't trade with us because we are in the EU they trade because we have a product they want at the price they want and that will always be the case .Other countries outside of the EU trade within Europe quite successfully ,no reason at all why that should not be the case for us
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Just under 50% of our trade is with the EU (additionally some trade to other countries are helped by Free Trade agreements that apply to the EU specifically). The question is what is done to protect that 50% in the event we leave? Not that it will all drop off.