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Originally Posted by heero_yuy
That's always the argument that they've (immigrants) contributed to a growth in the economy which is true in the broad GDP sense. The downside is rarely mentioned in that the cheap labour has depressed pay rates especially for the self employed like brickies down to the absolute minimum. That same depression of rates has made it more attractive for our own unemployed to sit at home on benefits whilst of the 2.1 million new jobs created under the last administration, 2 million went to immigrants.
Had employers had to source those jobs from the indigineous population there'd be better wages and training. Whilst they can get immigrants for "free" there's no incentive to invest in our own people. The CBI just love it though.
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True but I think we should try to combat such low wages being offered. I mean why wasn't minimum wage applied in this cases or is it too low? It would solve that problem and maybe reduce too much immigration from unskilled workers.
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Make no mistake, unless we went for only free trade agreements, all the rest of the EU baggage would be sneaked in by the backdoor or by majority votes over the next few years and we'd be right back to square one but with no choice as "You've already had a chance to vote"
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Even if we had only the single market we would still be subject to EU regulations. The only other two countries which can be in the market without wider EU membership still take directives from the EU.
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EHCR is a different issue as it's not part of EU membership and we'd be still subject to it even if we completely untied ourselves from the EU. It's a pity that a noble act as enacting the HRA, designed to prevent the Holocaust from happening again, has become so debased that it is used to protect criminals from deportation or give lags softer beds.
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These are the wider extremes of the ECHR but it's still a good thing despite the times it makes the news for silly things.