Thread: 60M VM IPv6 plans?
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Old 18-01-2013, 11:14   #34
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Re: VM IPv6 plans?

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis View Post
I know it will be because isp's have acted too late.

Do you not agree that waiting until ip allocation has ran out is too late?

What you not realising is when ipv6 is more heavily used eg. the average site is using ipv6 instead of ipv4, then ip's used to host ipv6 content will be unallocated, returned to ripe etc. and then they can be redistributed, it all has a knockon affect, ultimately there is no doomsday scenario where carrier grade nat is essential for an average broadband user unless its the path isp's deliberatly choose.

Equipment at this stage which does not support ipv6 would be considered obselete, nothing lasts forever. But the stage I am talking about is years from now, plenty of time for isps to roll out ipv6, but the problem is there is not even a hint of trials from any major uk isp. Whilst other countries are rolling them out already.

The uk body setup to manage ipv6 even wound itself up because the government couldnt even be bothered to dual stack its own websites.

sad state of affairs and a total embarrassement.

smart phones and tablets already support ipv6, as does any modern operating system which also means any pc or laptop that can run vista or newer.

Also firmware is software its not hardware. In fact many routers sold in the uk also already support ipv6, its usually isp supplied routers that have the function specifically removed at the isp's request, ironic given that isps are blaming router vendors.
Nobody's argunig that IPv6 takeup is slow and everyone's dragging their heels, but you're dismissing everything IPv4 as completely obsolete. Unfortunately, a lot of software and equipment is obsolete yet it's still widely used. IPv4 won't ever go anywhere, it'll just change to being the "fallback" mode if IPv6 is unavailable (for whatever reason - most likely because an application doesn't support it).

ISPs aren't the only ones to blame, though - everyone else that hosts content is. The big ones, Google, Facebook, etc. only enabled IPv6 support properly about a year ago. 99% of websites do not use IPv6 in any capacity so there has been no incentive for ISPs to upgrade yet. It's all going to come to a head at some point and us consumers will be the ones to suffer but none the less pinning it on just the ISPs is missing a large part of it.

Also, FYI Virgin are looking into IPv6. I don't know what the extent of it is, but there was definitely a significant amount of chatter on their Intranet about it when I was there. That was nearly 2 years ago.
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