What the hell as all this got to do with coming soon to virgin media tv,really shows how bad things have got when this forum topic is full of sky bb is better than vm bb,personally at the minute I think vm is better for broadband and sky millions light years ahead on tv and will always be.As for TiVo and sky hd box debate the TiVo tech is superb but sky big advantage I personally think is the vastly superior dynamic TV guide constantly updated and provided for free whilst we get charged £3/£5 (still trying to work out what the hell for),can we please now get back to dreaming about new channels and vm actually getting off there arses and actually acquiring some to justify the price increase next month