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Originally Posted by martyh
At least benefit claimants are getting a rise ,they get a pay rise year in year out ,they are the only section of society guaranteed more money ,they can think themselves lucky in that respect .
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Jessops are struggling because the market has changed .People don't buy cameras like they used to ,just about every phone in existence has a camera on it now and most people are quite satisfied with that because it is easier .Don't forget that Kodak had the same problem it's nothing to do with cutbacks or less money ,the market has disappeared it is as simple as that
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yeah the poorest people struggling as it is has a rise under inflation meaning the minimum amount they need to live actually goes less far? really lucky aint they? Those who are really poor get poorer those that are not poor shop at Asda instead of Waitrose.
Some of you workers seem to think everyone on the dole is flush the reality really is quite different
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Originally Posted by martyh
I would say that the evidence is staring us in the face ,maybe not in the form of figures and numbers of people jailed but the fact that benefit fraud is ongoing and persistent which in itself says that people have the perception that the system is there as an alternative lifestyle rather than a safety net .I and probably others here know teenage girls who have babies to get benefits and housing because they can't get jobs either because they don't want to or because of poor education ,it's a crackers system that invites fraud and misuse.
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It's still a lot of money but that isn't the only purpose of the welfare reforms .We have to get back to the idea that benefits are a last resort not a first call .I do however think that the government have not gone about a much needed change in the best way and in some respects have used a heavy handed approach .A change of perception in the system is what is needed not necessarily an enemy made of everyone on benefits
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yeah man lets keep on doing what el gov want lets focus on the poor and sick and leave the rich tax avoiders alone its sweet that the spin works for them.
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Originally Posted by martyh
What i can't understand is why they can't just have JS claimants having the 1% cap .While i am very vocal about benefits and sometimes come across as unsympathetic i do appreciate that in some cases living on benefits is a forced lifestyle for some and should not be subject to a cap ,some benefits must rise with inflation
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some cases? did you not see the figures posted somewhere recently?
I will refresh. End of last year 2.52 million unemployed 476000 ( or similar figure its less than 500 000 ) ope jobs . 2 million people without a cat in hells chance of getting a job and you say a few are forced to live on JS. Please step into the real world because seriously you do not have clue about the reality of the situation. Also the figures are getting worse due to pretty much everyone moving from incap to esa having to end up signing on
Wake up and smell the coffee or please feel free to find 2 million jobs out of nowhere then your statement may be correct
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Originally Posted by Taf
I.D.S. has already said that families on benefits should not receive more than a working family, and therefore a cap is to be imposed.
He has already moved the goalposts to include families with handicapped adults under the cap.
Next, I expect an announcement that families on benefits should also have to pay the same bills as working families, and therefore will have to pay rent and community charge (or it's replacement) at 100%. That might spark a bigger reaction....
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One council in Birmingham have already said the unemployed have to pay £200 towards CT