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No but those do not strengthen the main thrust of the article about the relationship between Wenger and Steve Bould. Having a valid quote that is unrelated to your point doesn't make the point correct.
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ok fine. what are your views on what these men such as Tim have said?
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The truth is we do not know the exact circumstances around how deals get made. You want to make it out that it's all Wenger because this lets you assign more of the blame to the man and also allows this idea that all we need to do is bring in Guardiola and all will be fine again. It's probably more likely a bit of both. We do know that Dick Law does the contract negations and that Wenger and Gazidis both have a large amount of input upon those agreements.
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Its Wengers choice as manager to give the recommendation to hand Bendtner and co a new contract not Law, Ivan or any other senior. It may well be both or all three involved but make no mistake its Wenger whom has the choice to hand them new contracts. So 'x' player gets a new deal, great but whats he offering? isnt it the managers duty to be sure resources are maximized? Not addressing Bendtners playboy attitude etc. letting him wonder heedlessly isnt exactly good management. Go play, express yourself isn't going to work. Just look at Arshavin. Anyway back in the day we had a great spine. those heads wouldnt as a collective unit allow players to toy around. There would be a unity about them and that would be put across to other players.. pull your finger out. Wenger hasnt got that spine no more to fall back on.
So on to Pep, would he give the go ahead to hand players that are taking the pee a new bumper contract? I doubt it very much. he'd be looking to see what 'x' player brings and if it warrants a new contract then fine, if not then they'll be shown the door in favour of 'y' player who'll offer something to our fight.
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Wenger is a dictator, that's a fact? Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Pol Pot and Arsene Wenger. Yes, that's a proportional response. Even those who think he should go have nothing but respect for the man and all he has done for the club but you've really laid into him with no respect at all. He is 'pathetic', 'a fool' and now a dictator. When he does leave you're actually going to find yourself isolated because he will be forever remembered as a legend by the vast majority of Arsenal fans and they won't accept such insults against him.
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oh here we go, thats right jump the gun Damien. I do respect the man, what hes achieved has been great but I am in no way going to support this decline. thats just blowing smoke and adding fuel to this problem we have. isolated? ye ok just like various people have now finally come to terms it may well end messy but hope it doesn't just like me. if you look through my posts you'll see Ive said just that a while back.
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Well you can't have it both ways. You compare us to Chelsea and Manchester City who have substantially more money but you won't allow a comparison between clubs with less money?
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No I've been addressing efficiency. its you that keeps banging the drum of Chelsea and Citys spend.
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You're right however. You can't compare Swansea or West Brom to Arsenal. We have a lot more money than them. So where should we finish if we take into account income? 4th. *Looks at graph*. We're finishing exactly where we should.....
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well I dont look at it purely on spend. i look at efficiency too. the reason I said you cant compare us to Swansea and West Brom is because of our honours.