[muppetman11]

I agree with both of you , it's great Talk Talk and BT Vision are here to shake up the market , however the £44 HDFootyman is quoting doesn't differ vastly from VM's XL with BB and phone pricing or Sky's Entertainment+ with BB and phone plus both offer more channels. I personally think VM's XL TV and Sky's Entertainment+ represent decent value , I'm afraid it's the premium channels which are increasing at too fast a pace for me , aren't sports stars already earning enough.