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Old 06-11-2012, 00:48   #1885
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013

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Originally Posted by thenry View Post
he has indeed managed near enough all his life but that doesnt mean hes earned a right to manage Arsenal for the rest of his life. the decline is worrying.
The decline seems to have been timed exactly when Chelsea came into Russian money. We seem to be a level below City and Chelsea smart buying isn't going to let us overtake them.

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he doesnt outperform at a level we could be. thats worrying. standing still moving sideways when we could be moving forward is worrying. bang for your buck. yup there you go. thats true self subtainzzzzz peaking.
It's not as easy as bang for your buck. Players tend to be priced what they are worth and often a premium on top of that. There isn't a legion of great title-winning players waiting for a knock-off price. They are are rare and difficult to find. Otherwise everybody would be buying them.

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Arsene is indeed well respected. i want him to turn it around but make no mistake it isnt just keyboard warriors. people in the stadium are annoyed with the lot but continue to support what we love that is the club.
People in the stadium still sing 'one Arsene Wenger'. Some are annoyed at the board and understand the limitations Wenger is working under. I do not speak for all of them. However we don't see much chanted against the man or protests against him.

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Pep fine tunes for a start and would not accept half arsed ways. he'd get players performing. as for investment agreed he did get a huge boost but look at it this way. Barca and Real compete on that level for pride. Arsenal is different. Our values are completely different. as for funds theres 70mil in the bank and resources taken up which could be cleared to buy quality able to make a difference. Pep would find a way. Hes not a person who would put up with crap.
What? That isn't a qualitative assessment of his strengths. It's a bunch of clichés. I don't see how those qualities can be measured or why he could give it and Wenger could not. You seem to be placing a lot of faith in him to 'find a way' without a clear idea of what that isn't given he would operate under the same contrants as Wenger does.

Fundamentally the problem is thus, the squad isn't good enough, the club can't pay for the premium level players that City and Chelsea can.

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it isnt just 'some guy', 'keyboard warrior' or information taken from thin air. the information has been obtained by persisting by he or she. i dont know why the media hasnt exploited Arsenal but i assure you they know. if Iain Dowie knew a couple of years ago the salaries of Bendtner, Chamakh and the rest of the players offering little to Arsenal wondering how they got those figures which match the figures in this new release makes me believe it somewhat. How would Iain Dowie know? for all the people in the world Dowie on SkySportsNews?
All the more reason to take it with a pinch of salt. People state the wages without ever given a source, seems dubious at best.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy View Post
all the major clubs.except Liverpool, the more i.hear about scouting the less I like it, seems like agents.are the driving force on a lot of clubs transfer policy.
What annoys me is the narrative that there is a legion of excellent players if only they would be brought. It isn't the case. Even Newcastle's impressive transfer dealings don't seem to be enough to let them break into the top four. At a certain level the scouting is too good and too competitive for a team to really be able to purchase established, quality players cheaply. It happens quite rarely. Normally to get a player cheap you need to take a risk. A sure thing will incur a premium. Occasionally you can buy a already known player and Wenger did this with Arteta, Mertesacker and Cazorla. However there isn't many of those purchases available.
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