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Originally Posted by Chris
"Policing by consent" means running the operation in a way that causes the public to co-operate because the public agrees with and supports the police and not because they have at the back of their minds that they might face violence, or the threat of it, if they do not.
An observation on how "Policing by consent" was seen to have applied during the recent Games in London:
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So you think the public in practically every other country in Europe,or the West for that matter,behave and abide by the law only because they may get shot or threatened with a gun if they don't?
Sorry Chris,you are smart enough to know that what you typed there is just plain nonsense.
Policing by consent is such a lofty concept,but what does it exactly mean in the real world? By your definition I take it that you object to the police carrying spray and batons as well,yes? Those are used when you don't comply,are they not?
It's funny that you should insinuate,without giving me the time of day to address me directly,that I do not understand the principle of 'policing by consent'. I guess I am in good company as that very principle is being questioned and talked about by front line cops on the Gadget Blog.
By the way,did you know that French police have to salute you before talking to you? They are also armed.... but I guess they are oppressive and could turn into violent thugs at a moments notice,too? After all,they don't police by consent,right? Neither does German police,right? Spanish,Italian? All rent-a-thugs?
Don't think so.
Policing by consent means that you consent to being policed,not
how you are being policed. In fact,I don't see any difference to principles of policing in Germany.Or the states.Or wherever.....
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Originally Posted by Itshim
Sorry can not pick up quote referring to Police blog
Which is ?
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Inspector Gadget
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Originally Posted by danielf
Yes, I think I pointed that out myself.
Yes. I specifically mentioned that in an earlier post. I have no beef with it either way. As I said earlier, I like the idea that the police doesn't carry arms routinely, but I'd have no problem with it if they did. I think it's largely a matter of what you're used to, and there are many continental police forces that have fine relations with the public despite carrying arms. I know. I lived there for around 30 years. Police forces don't suddenly turn into ninja-style paramilitary units when they carry guns.
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This seems to be something parts of the British public are unwilling or unable to understand. Somehow British policing is 'special' and not being armed is a tradition worth holding onto out of some sort of pig-headed nostalgia.
I wonder though how Manchester could ever have gotten to be known as Gunchester? I mean,since the cops are unarmed criminals don't use guns,do they?