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Old 19-09-2012, 12:35   #60
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Re: 2 Police Officers shot and killed in Manchester

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Originally Posted by Vieil Homme View Post
Regarding the issue of arming all police officers it would be wrong as from inception, the police have not been armed. The day every officer in the UK mainland is armed policing will no longer be by consent as laid down by Robert Peel. While I'm not privy of the amount of armed police, there are more than you think.
Nonsense. In Peels day the original officers were routinely armed with a sword and firearm, until relatively recently officers on night duty could sign out a gun and arm themselves.

And in a previous thread the number of authorised firearms officers was shown, it wasn't a lot at all.

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The system is wrong to allow a person who has been charged with a firearms offence. They should never be given bail, he should have been kept on remand until he was either cleared or sentenced for that offence.
He was never charged, they were still gathering evidence.

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All that might have changed with routine arming, is for the murders to become "suicide by cop"
It might be callous of me but I'd prefer that than having two dead officers, from an ambush point of view they might still have died but at least they would have had a chance.

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Also look at what happened recently where 1 man killed another then a Police officer killed innocents.
Eh? When was this?

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if attacked with an axe or sword the just keep your or a car between you and the assailant while you call for back up
And how long might that be. Struggling with an axe man waiting for backup is not fun. I've been in that position and firearms officers could easily be 1/2 hour away, that's a long time to run round a car in circles.
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