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Old 09-09-2012, 13:19   #139
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Re: Finally had enough of VM BS...........

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
There's a difference between sentinents such as "it works for me but I don't deny there are problems with the SH" and acknowleding the downright misery caused to a provably high number of people whose downloads are destroyed by R36.
Oh wow!

After Peter said this to me....

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Originally Posted by Peter_ View Post
.... even if begrudgingly you admit defeat but word it to not sound negative...
It sounds like you're now doing the same thing for the "other side of the argument", for want of a better way to put it.

There is, actually NO difference. We have acknowledged it is not perfect. But you, again, have not yet acknowledged that it is, actually, okay for some/a lot/most/whatever people.

Hypocritical much?

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You two avoid acknowledging the seriousness of this (and not just this, the whole shabby history of the SH). For that you attract justifiable criticism.
And round and round we go

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Turning to the BS,you rather excuse the BS as "marketing" instead of roundly criticising not just unthruth but downright lies.
May I direct you then to the ASA, with whom you can lodge a formal complaint about these supposed "lies". Please do keep us informed of your progress.

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Even worse, you know all this deep down...
So now you're a mind-reader too?

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It's no excuse for VM to put out BS just because others do - especially when they know that in the case of the SH, it's not truthful.
Then get onto the ASA ASAP.

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Originally Posted by Hugh View Post
"Misery" because "downloads are destroyed"?

Are these one-time only downloads, that cannot be repeated, causing emotional and financial loss?
And yet I have never had any such problems with my SH.

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Methinks Mr Hyperbole-OverDramatising is visiting today.......
Not for the first time

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Originally Posted by Maggy J View Post
But Peter_ has insider knowledge...
But he doesn't know that "palms were greased" or he would not have qualified his statement. He may well know but not want to admit it on a public forum. In which case I don't think he should have said anything at all.

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Are you employed or have been employed by VM?
Don't get them started (For the record, though, no.)

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Originally Posted by dilligaf1701 View Post
But it doesn't really bother me if they agree or not - I've got far more important things going on in my life. People don't have to agree or disagree with me.
Quite. But the point was that they are happy to vilify me (and others) for not completely agreeing with them that the SH is "a complete pile of cack". But they won't concede that it can't be "a complete pile of cack" or it wouldn't work well enough for us. If it were in indeed "a complete pile of cack" then it wouldn't work at all for anyone. They want us to concede something (which we have, many times) but they're not willing to concede anything. Smacks of hypocrisy to me.
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