[andy_m]

If that was supposed to be funny then you're right, I didn't get it.

FWIW I like Muppetman's observation that the sleak products of Apple are like those of Sky whilst the more Heath Robinson Android stuff is more like what we get from Virgin. It probably explains why so many on this thread have said they wouldn't want anything from Apple since almost by virtue of the fact that they are Virgin customers they're not the sort of people who want the type of products Apple offer.