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Why are they Morons? The Movie makes a good point, that no nation should accept any kind of corrupt government that can bend the rules whenever it sees fit and use mass propaganda to back up it's actions. I am in favour of anyone standing up to a corrupt government, these masks kind of portray a standing up to the government.
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The movie makes a hardly revolutionary point. The existence of an extremely totalitarian government taking over a country and imposing it's will on the population is an very common trope in film and literature. It's a plot device for a fun film which ends with a cool sequence of Parliament blowing up with everyone wearing Guy Fawkes masks.
However people take the whole pseudo-philosophy far too seriously. There is little in the film that offers much insight into real politics or the world. It reminds me of the people waving copies of 1984 around. It's worth mentioning that Alan Moore thought it missed the point and depth of this creation.
So I wonder what point they are making or are they just caught up the romance of the idea? There seems to be few substantial ideas behind the mask and the we're dealing with complicated issues here.
Anyway I don't care that much about the masks. Not enough to make it into an issue. So I retract calling them all 'morons'. It was just meant to be a throwaway remark.
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These people in the mask believe the storming (Oh look, I've used this term again, get over it) of another Embassy is illegal under International Law and Treaties and strongly object to it, but at least we have established, they are not going to do this any time soon, to do so would be diplomatic suicide. So don't think there is any need for the displaying of such masks just yet.
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I am not especially bothered by the use of the 'storming of the embassy'. I only objected because it was an over-emotive and dramatic representation of the rather mundane truth. That the UK was willing to revoke diplomatic protection for the embassy based on a law enacted a couple of decades ago. It would take months and years of court action and I don't think anyone was seriously suggesting it was a likely outcome. The way it was portrayed was that the SAS were poised to raid the place. I agree it would be a stupid thing to do and it was a stupid thing to invoke. It was bad politics which Ecuador were quick to exploit.
However when we're talking about international law it's also pretty questionable to use your embassy to protect someone from allegations of sexual assault. Especially when that someone has had the full use of the legal system to argue their case. As Hague said: "
[Diplomatic Asylum] should not be used for the purposes of escaping the regular processes of the court". This is not what embassies were meant to do and it is not why they are granted protection under International law. It can easily be argued that Ecuador have brought a risk to their on embassy on themselves by abusing such privileges.
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So far. I am led to believe going off the news, that 1 Million pound has been spent on Police presence outside the embassy already. It's a bloody farce. It's one man, in a foreign nations Embassy, being accused of a sexual assault and as I have said previously, he is only at the accused stage.
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Well his own actions have ensured that Sweden can't take it past the accused stage just yet. This is a brilliantly circular argument whereby the investigation can't progress because he is fighting his extradition but the case for the extradition is harmed because the investigation hasn't progressed. He'll never have to face justice under such a view.
£1 million is sickening and depressing but we can't write it off. The blame for the cost is entirely at the hands of Mr Assange himself and not the police who are simply carrying out their legal obligations. You don't abandon a pursuit of a suspect because of cost, you shouldn't anyway.
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The amount of resources being applied to get this one man is pathetic. Any one would think he was guilty of being a Terrorist the amount attention he is getting from Authority figures.
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He is getting attention because of his public persona. The government wanted little to do with him preferring to leave it to the courts (as they should be doing) until he made it a international problem by avoiding the courts in the ecuadorian embassy.
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Perhaps our more affluent Masters across the pond will foot the bill?
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Sweden aren't that rich.