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Originally Posted by Sirius
Ok let me see
History shows that Germany has a habit of trying to control Europe by any means they see fit.
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History shows the Italians and the British had a habit of doing that as well. Only difference is we were more successful. Do you wake up with a burning desire for empire and oppression or is that confined to history? We even fetishise the Empire whereas the Germans are ashamed of their past, the crimes aren't the same scale of course but they were still crimes.
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In the past it has been instrumental in starting wars to help it in that task and Germany has been known to carry out some horrible things to help it in its endeavor to control Europe.
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Ditto the UK.
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Now they are trying a different option and that is via the Euro, They are demanding that other countries follow what they say IE Greece. I want nothing to do with the EU because i want nothing to do with a country that wants to control it and therefor control any country who is a part of it. That country is GERMANY
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Germany care only about their own country. They are currently bailing out countries in Europe which didn't live within their means and now threaten to damage the Euro and the Germany economy as a result. They do not want to be bailing out Greece, it's a lot of money and it's politically unpopular in Germany. They have to anyway because if the Euro goes down they suffer. This is the extent of their ambition in dictating to Greece, if they want the bailouts then they have to make a commitment to avoiding the need for more bailouts to come. Germany did not cause Greece to overspend or cause them to have a lax approach to collecting taxation.
Germany are actually resisting the Eurobonds plan which many, i.e the French, are arguing for. This would actually be better from the point of view of a 'closer Europe' but they don't want to do it because they would lose out economically.
This isn't a diabolical plan to control Europe. It's panic in the Eurozone Governments.
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Did i make that clear enough for you and yes i was well aware of what i posted in my other post and stand by it
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So, just to make it clear enough for me, you're comparing a Government which was responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of people and that committed the Holocaust to the current German government?
Maybe the reason Germany is in such a strong position is because they spend more of their time looking forward rather than obsessing over the past. The world has moved on quite a bit since World War 2 (When it comes to World War 1 it's far more complex than 'The Germans') and it might be time stop using it as the basis for our understanding on international politics.