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Originally Posted by Alan Fry
If the UK left the EU (which we joined under a Tory government and was suggested by a Tory PM!), not only would we have to change our laws, but we would be isolated in Europe, it would pose diffculties with Northern Ireland, we would have to either join NAFTA or go it alone and anyway, what ever we do we will be ultimately under influence of China
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Nonsense. We would most likely go straight into the EFTA, given that we're a net importer from Europe they wouldn't cut off trade with us nor could they.
Going it alone would be fine - we could, oh I don't know, get back to trading with the Anglosphere and the Commonwealth and former Commonwealth. Australia, Canada, etc, countries on their way up rather than being the world's retirement home, paying up former Eastern Bloc countries with pre-accession subsidies then transference of wealth to tap their younger populations for cheap labour.
Whether you or the Lib Dems or anyone else like it or not we're the 5th largest trading nation in the world. Free of the EU's trade tariffs we could grow trade with traditional partners.
China have considerable sway over the EU anyway, thanks in no small part to their pouring money into EU governments' bonds, in a similar manner to their potential influence over the USA.
The first sentence - no-one could care less who took us into the EU, and can I remind you that what we have right now bares little resemblance to the EEC or the Common Market, as sold to the people as a trade organisation, thanks to Lisbon and other agreements giving the EU and the invisible European Commission, the never directly elected body who in private decide on laws to be rubber stamped by the Parliament, control over several facets of our lives.
I have no idea why leaving the EU would have any impact on the UK's relationship with Ireland. If you're thinking of EU subsidies just think what we would do having our own waters back for UK fishermen, not handing billions over to the EU for foreign farming subsidies and payments to potential and current EU nations.
Please try again.
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry
Hence why it would be better if they replaced it with a USE, the EU is nothing more than a halfway house that pleases no one a USE (and Global Government) would be far more effective
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Well if you want to see the UK become poorer then sure, because I can assure you that the GDP within the Eurozone is considerably below ours.
Can't think why, loss of flexibility in monetary policy and massive competitiveness gap in order to keep Germany's exports artificially cheap perhaps.