[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

You have encouraged people to do all of those things, which makes you just as bad. In fact it makes you worse, because you want other people to do your dirty work for you, because you don't have the bottle.




No Alan, it is absolutely nothing to do with democracy.

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Where does the money come from to pay for those well paid jobs??? If you increase wages, then you increase production costs, and then increase inflation.

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Get a dictonary Alan

For godness sake, all I have done is encorage people to stand up and demand real and radcial change in favour of the working people, the reason why I have suggested these methods becuase they are the only way it is going to be possible

Remember the term:

You provide the pictures, I will provide the War

Also the democracy we have is in favour of the rich, I want that to change

As for the money, it comes from the WEALTHY and BUSINESSES

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

I know you hate facts Alan but consider this table:

Rank Place GVA per capita
in pounds (dollars in parenthesis)
1 England 20 442 ($31,545)
2 Scotland 19 744 ($30,468)
3 Northern Ireland 15 795 ($24,374)
4 Wales 14 842 ($22,903)

And by region:

1 Greater London 34,200 ($52,776)
2 South East England 20,923 ($32,287)
3 East of England 18,591 ($28,689)
4 South West England 18,211 ($28,102)
5 East Midlands 17,349 ($26,772)
6 North West England 17,263 ($26,639)
7 West Midlands 16,788 ($25,906)
8 Yorkshire and the Humber, England 16,569 ($25,568)
9 North East England 15,621 ($24,106)

This is what each person in each area would get if everybody was paid the same according to the total income of each area. i.e. No rich at all.

Nobody's going to be as well off as you think they'll be under your equality system but I guess that doesn't fit in with your narrow perspective.

Table source

Like you and your friends, you make wrong claims about me, I have not called for people to be as well off, only to have a decent wage to have a decent lifestyle, in other terms a more fianancialy equal place

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Originally Posted by Hugh

You appear to be confusing politics with economics.....

Democracy is, imho, about involvement in the political process through delegated or representative means by universal suffrage - what has that got to do with 'a high a growing standard of living' (sic)?

Because a lot of "Democracies" are corrupted by the wealthy and major businesses so that it can be in favour of them (and make then richer) and against the working people (and make then poorer)

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Originally Posted by Chris

Or, to put it another way:


Well worth reading in full:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance...he-arithmetic/

Like I have said, we need more that just talking money off the rich (like investing into the economy), but it would help, anyway does it count Tax Evasion and Avoidance?

Remember that newspaper is owned by Billionaires David and Frederick Barclay